128. COP26 Halfway Point: A City of Two Tales With Nigel Topping
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 8 November 2021
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It's the halfway point of the COP26 climate discussions in Glasgow, UK! Pledges over the past week from world leaders could be transformational, keeping the Paris Agreement's ambition in reach. The devil is in the detail of delivery and, As we head into the second week of the negotiations, government Ministers and negotiators get down to business, with final agreements due to land on Saturday this week. Momentum from the pledges of the past week reverberated around the world, yet the youth movement, alongside many of the most vulnerable nations showed how much further we have to go.
On this episode we take stock with a great friend of the show, the UK's High Level Climate Action Champion, Nigel Topping.
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| 0:00.0 | So it's about seven o'clock in the morning and walking along there. Incredibly quiet streets |
| 0:27.6 | of Glasgow where the march was yesterday there's strewn banners everywhere and it's pretty tidy but |
| 0:32.7 | there's a few things left over you can definitely see there was evidence of lots and lots of |
| 0:36.3 | people here yesterday, 150,000, many estimating for this march which was amazing and I am making my way |
| 0:45.8 | through the streets into the climate negotiation centres. Early in the morning we're all up pretty |
| 0:51.8 | late last night the inevitable middle of the week parties it's Sunday morning so this is |
| 0:57.4 | basically the only sort of off day in the middle of the cop but it's not really an off day and I'm |
| 1:02.3 | going to find my way in and I'm going to find my friend Nigel, Nigel Topping, a high level |
| 1:08.4 | climate action champion and I want to find out from him how do we think about where we are now |
| 1:14.9 | halfway through the cop. It really has been a city of two tales the story on the inside has been |
| 1:21.5 | full of optimism and commitments and claims that we're if not there then certainly bending |
| 1:29.4 | the curve towards where we need to be and on the outside it's been met with this sense of |
| 1:35.8 | it's all hot air it's all blah blah blah you say these things and then you don't do them and |
| 1:40.5 | you can see why they why that's being said I mean this is certainly not the first time countries |
| 1:46.1 | have come together and made big commitments and in general they've not been met in the way that |
| 1:51.4 | it's been claimed that they would do so Nigel's run half of that he's close to what's going on |
| 1:57.4 | he's close to the numbers had they had up so that's what I want to talk to him about |
| 2:02.7 | they go through security hey there do I have to go do I get sorry I'm trying to go breakfast |
| 2:11.1 | yeah do I give this way to get the crown plaza nice and calm right now inside the venue it's |
| 2:27.8 | those listeners you haven't been here it is fast I mean all cuts are big but this one's really big |
| 2:32.6 | and it's all in one great big long line to go from one end to the other takes a good sort of |
| 2:37.3 | 15 minutes to to walk from side to side got a mask on of course so I have to go through a few more |
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