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Hello, Gabby.

Hello, how are you Joe?

Good. Thanks for being here.

Appreciate it.

Thank you for having me. You're looking well.

Thank you, you are as well.

I really enjoy following you on Instagram.

You have a very positive Instagram page.

It's full of information, it's beneficial, it's great stuff.

Thanks, I, you know, I feel like I'm trying to figure that out.

Like for a younger person, it's like, oh yeah, well, this is how you do it.

And for me, I'm like, well like what do you really want to say and I don't know I think sometimes I would like to take more chances but I do play it probably safe.

How so look in what way? I try to be pretty honest, but sometimes you're always

very aware that you just, I'm not interested in getting roasted or spending a lot of time

and energy in a

hassle of spending a lot of time and energy in a hassle with somebody. So I think when I'm doing it I'm as honest as I can be but I'm it's also

I'm aware of that. What do you hold back on? Like what kind of stuff?

I think for me it would just maybe you'd just be more even maybe more direct. But you're you know I think

it when you're trying when you sort of say okay I'm gonna occupy this space professionally that feels good to me and like I want it to be

overall pretty positive.

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