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Each week I sit down with Savannah Locke, a self-admitted pop culture expert, and she helps me catch up on everything I've missed, which given that I do not own a cell phone is quite a bit. In fact, they're very pleased. Savannah was

very pleased to teach me about the fact that Taylor Swift had gotten engaged, about six

weeks after it happened. So on the subtext, Savannah brings a pop culture moment, celebrity drama,

internet debates for our shows, and together we ask a deeper question. Why does any of this actually

matter? What does it reveal about our culture, our theology, and the lives that we are living

online and in the public square? And how might we as Christians enjoy the world in ways that reflect

truth, beauty, and goodness? It's a conversation between someone who lives very much on the

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