I mean, I've had women come into my therapy practice in their six, seventh decade of life,

being like, done it all, raise the kids, went to Ivy League schools, getting their MBAs,

money in the bank.

I kind of like my spouse.

I still work out.

I go to Soul Cycle.

I'm on all these boards.

I'm doing all this charity work.

Why do I feel so empty?

And I'm like, because nobody friggin knows you,

because you built your life on checking boxes that someone else constructed that told you that this was what a good life is. And in doing that so much of the time, it's saying yes when you want to say no.

So much of the time it's people pleasing. And so you get to the end towards, you know, more of the

evening of life. And there's an existential loneliness. It's so sad to not be known.

Welcome to the Calm Mom podcast, the show for ambitious women ready to get off the Hot Mess Express.

I know you've got a lot going on.

You work so hard.

You're raising an incredible family.

And sometimes it can be overwhelming. I'm your host,

Michelle Grocer. I'm a certified master life coach, attorney, wife, and mom. And years ago, I was

right where you are. I was running a busy law practice while raising a family, and I was on the fast

track to burnout. I thought I just needed to be more organized or have better routines,

but it was learning how to heal and regulate my nervous system that expand in my capacity

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