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Now that takes us to meeting two and this is where the real fireworks take place.

This is where he basically kind of unloads and we have a pretty healthy exchange, a pretty

heated exchange.

And this is the part that was transcribed and included in the New York Times.

You can read the transcript over there.

But yeah, so this is my discussion with Brian King where he basically delivers his ultimatum

and it's an ultimatum that I can't do.

Basically it's an ultimatum saying don't speak up for LGBTQ youth and same sex marriage.

Donate never speak again publicly for women.

Should have more of my stories and take off every episode that ever caused out to anyone.

It was just a matter of conscience.

And we talk in detail about all these things.

I think this is probably the most worthwhile of all the segments that I've shared for you.

Listen to.

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