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A couple weeks later I was called in to speak with Mark Jensen, my state president, who brought

Bishop Stevenson into the interview.

And just for a little bit of background in context, I had been meeting with President

Jensen a few times prior that year.

He had been trying to understand what I was doing with warmest stories and why.

And yeah, and so this was a full on interview where I was being sort of grilled about, you

know, why I wanted to baptize Winston and why I wasn't in apostasy and whether I was,

you know, on solid ground and worthy.

I'll tell you, you know, I guess I'll talk about things after it was over, but I'm, you

know, I think again, this interview you're about to hear.

I think President Jensen and Bishop Stevenson were just doing their best, their good men.

And the result of this meeting you're about to hear is that I spent almost a full year

counseling with Mark Jensen, my state president, until he understood me well enough to allow

me to baptize my son and to be a member in full, full good standing.

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