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Dr Taylor Marshall Podcast

1261: Charlie Kirk Candace Owens, Catholicism and Israel – Dr. Taylor Marshall

Dr Taylor Marshall Podcast

Dr. Taylor Marshall

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.74K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Candace Owens has revealed a text thread in which Charlie Kirk stated: “Leaving me no choice to leave the pro-Israel cause.” I disucss this as it relates to the theology of 1948 Israel and Catholicism. Dr. Taylor Marshall’s new book, Christian Patriot: https://amzn.to/4n8w4A1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

All right, Charlie Kirk, Candice Owens, Catholicism, and Israel.

0:16.2

I was just on with Jason Whitlock.

0:18.9

We did a live interview, and we talked about Charlie Kirk, Candice,

0:23.7

and he really wanted to talk to me about Israel and Catholicism because this whole discussion

0:31.0

is theological. People are trying to fit this discussion into politics and political categories.

0:41.3

And what we've seen happen over the last several years is theology has emerged.

0:46.7

For example, when Tucker Carlson is interviewing Senator Ted Cruz,

0:50.5

Ted Cruz says, I learned in Sunday school, if you bless Israel, you'll be blessed.

0:53.7

If you curse Israel, you'll be blessed. If you curse

0:54.1

Israel, you'll be cursed. He's using theology. It's infantile. Tucker Carlson calls him out on it.

1:00.2

And what we've seen is many on the intellectual right, okay, Republican, conservative, a gravitation

1:10.1

towards Catholicism.

1:11.9

I'm part of it.

1:13.3

Certainly Candace Owens is a part of it.

1:16.0

Many voices, Megan Kelly, J.D. Vance, even Nick Fuentes.

1:22.0

They're coming at politics from a Christian, but specifically a Catholic point of view.

1:29.3

All right.

1:29.5

This is what's in my new book, Christian Patriot.

1:32.9

This is theology.

1:34.4

And what I was explaining to Jason Whitlock is this controversy, I'm going to go over the tweet that has been, not the tweet, the text message from Charlie Kirk in which he says,

1:48.2

this is leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause, end quote. All right. It's right

1:54.6

there. This is theology, and I'm going to walk you through the theology. I'm coming at this from the historic Christian point of view.

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