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Welcome back to hashtag Sisters in Law with Kimberly Atkins store Jill wine banks and me barbequeade.

Joyce will be back next week and we already miss her.

So by now all of you know that we're going on tour next month to Portland Oregon on May 12th, New York City on May 19th and Washington DC on May 21st.

Go to the show notes for the link for politicon.com slash tour to get your tickets.

They're selling fast so please hurry we want to meet you.

Okay let's get on with the show where as always it was a hard week to choose just three topics up but we did and they're great.

So today we'll be discussing the upcoming trial in the e-jean carol case.

The wrong place shootings that we've been experiencing over the past week and Jim Jordan's road show.

And then of course we look forward to answering your questions at the end of the show as we always do.

But first Kim I want to ask you I know last week you were giving a speech at your Alma Mater Boston University Law School a keynote address how to go.

It went really great. It was a really wonderful event that was put on by the women law association at Boston University School of Law that brought together.

Some really wonderful people and you know we talk about a lot of things that can be depressing on this podcast and a lot of them have to do specifically with things that affect women.

And so it can feel like it's a tough and very discouraging time but when you come together in fellowship with people who are students young people who are eager to change the world professionals who are in the trenches every day doing good work to bring about better justice.

And you're able to talk to them that always feels really great but I did give a keynote speech about my experience my experience in law school and beyond.

And I get so nervous whenever I address people like that it's different just chatting with you guys you know I forget people are listening but what do you guys do to get over those jitters of public speaking I know you both have have given plenty of public addresses barb what do you do.

Well I'll tell you one thing that I have developed over time is I used to get really nervous also and as a result one crutch I used to use was I would write out my speech and I would try to learn it well enough that it didn't look like I was reading my speech but it was still a very scripted speech.

And I think really it's just repetition over time having done a lot of speeches and realizing you know you can flub and people will still like you in fact if you flood people might like you a little more you don't have to be perfect you really just have to be human.

And so I have taken to really writing a speeches is just a list of points I want to make so it might be just a list of you know a few words down a page that just as a prompt to remember to cover a particular topic.

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