This is popular front a podcast focused on the niche details of modern warfare and

underreported conflict with me Jake Hanrahan. Today we're speaking to Ilia Ponomarenko.

He is a reporter from Ukraine. He's a defense reporter working for the Kyiv Post he's constantly back and

forth to the front lines in East Ukraine today he's going to be telling us

about the so-called longest ceasefire. Basically the current ceasefire in Ukraine in

which around 40 Ukraine servicemen have been killed in the space of a year so not much of a ceasefire many killed on the other

side as well it is going to explain to us how it's all developing there if you

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So recently there's been a flare-up of clashes on the front line in the east.

Obviously there have been deaths on both sides.

What's going on? Maybe just explain to us what's happening this time around.

You know, what's happening is that the usual, very usual running of this endless war, you know.

This is what it looked like in years.

Nothing special.

You know, Dunbar, the war zone of the Bas since 2015

is the place where time stands still.

You know, this is what it looks like.

You know, the World War I in miniature,

in like a small version of it.

It's just two lines standing, two armies standing.

No one's moving forward, no one's moving back.

So in this cat and mouse, this fighting, endless fighting goes on and on and on and on with no results at all

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