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It seems like there's a snowball effect.

In other words, remember that Harvey Milk movie when Harvey Milk basically says when they

know one of us, you know, they vote for us two to one or something like that.

When you know a gay, gay or lesbian or bisexual or transgender person, somehow that affects

you differently than if they're sort of, you know, those people out there that you don't

really know.

The more it seems like the more the people leave Mormonism, then the more ex-mormons

that people know and then the infection or the, you know, the virus or whatever the

opposite of a virus is, it accelerates or grows the more that people like us are known.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

I think there's totally a tipping point.

A tipping point.

Yeah.

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