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The freeCodeCamp Podcast

#125 Open Source is Changing. The Changelog Host Jerod Santo Shows You How to Keep Up

The freeCodeCamp Podcast

Quincy Larson

Education, Technology

5.0549 Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2024

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Summary

On this week's episode of the podcast, freeCodeCamp founder Quincy Larson interviews Jerod Santo, host of The Changelog, a podcast about open source software development that has been going strong for 15 years.

Jerod is plugged in to the world of Open Source, going to all the big conferences and interviewing all the big open source creators. 

We have a fun, wide-reaching conversation about some of the current issues facing open source, such as AI models and Relicensing – essentially, a big company closed-sourcing a previously open source project after they buy out its creator. (Fun fact: this can't happen to freeCodeCamp because charities cannot be bought or sold.)

I ask Jerod about:

- his life as a remote dev in Omaha, Nebraska, raising his 6 his kids
- the Changelog News podcast with its weekly 10 minutes of updates on the world of open source
- his process, and how he researches and surfaces interesting news for his show
- and how The Changelog commissioned 3 full albums worth of music over the years, which you can stream for free.

Can you guess what bass line I'm playing during the intro? It's from a 1984 pop classic.

Be sure to follow The freeCodeCamp podcast in your favorite podcast app. And share this podcast with a friend. Let's inspire more folks to learn to code and build careers for themselves in tech.

Also, I want to thank the 9,331 kind people who support our charity each month, and who make this podcast possible. You can join them and support our mission at: https://www.freecodecamp.org/donate

Links we talk about during our conversation:

Jerod's weekly Changelog News podcast that you should totally subscribe to (it's free): https://changelog.com/news

Jerod and Adam interview the head of the Open Source Initiative on AI models and open source, which he and I discussed during this podcast: https://changelog.com/podcast/578

Changelog Beats: https://changelog.com/beats

And of course, my interview with Jerod and Adam about their developer journeys, and the history of The Changelog on its 10th anniversary: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/open-source-moves-fast-10-years-of-the-changelog/

Transcript

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0:00.0

There's no such thing as lossless compression with human communication.

0:03.9

Put that on a clip, Quincy.

0:05.3

You should clip that.

0:06.0

Put that out there.

0:07.0

We don't have clips for clips sake.

0:09.1

We just want to give you a taste and say, oh, that's interesting.

0:12.0

And then come listen to the full conversation.

0:13.5

So,

0:13.8

So,

0:13.8

So, Welcome back to the FreeCote Camp podcast.

0:42.0

I'm Quincy Larson, teacher and founder of Freakococamp.org.

0:46.5

Each week, we're bringing you insight from developers, founders, and ambitious people getting into tech.

0:51.4

This week, we're joined by Jared Santo. He's a software engineer

0:56.2

and host of ChangeLog podcast and the ChangeLog News podcast, which is newer and which I listen to

1:03.8

pretty much every week. So, Jared, welcome.

1:09.0

Excited to be here, Quincy. Thanks for having me.

1:11.4

Yeah, man.

1:12.9

And I'm excited to have you back on.

1:18.3

So for any of you hardcore Free Code Camp podcast listeners, you may remember that, hey,

1:23.6

didn't Free Code Camp do a comprehensive interview with Jared and with his, uh,

1:26.8

with Adam, his partner in crime over there at ChangeLog?

1:28.4

Uh, and yes, I did.

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