Five, four, three, two.

Hello, Sam Harris.

Hey man, good to see you.

Happy to be here.

I listen to your podcast with Jack.

Let's just get right into the Jack stuff.

Yeah, because I listened to your podcast with Jack and I found something very...

When I did my podcast with Jack, first of all, was not anticipating the blowback that I received. It was stunning. But he, what I thought was, I was just going to have a conversation with this guy, be fun, see what it's like to run this gigantic network that helps people

communicate.

You okay, Jimmy?

All right.

Helps people communicate and distribute information worldwide.

What does it like to start something like that up and have it become

what it is, like how have you managed to try to keep up with it and what have the headaches been?

And apparently people online, particularly the people that want to comment about this all they wanted to know

about was censorship and that was an issue with me there was a question with me

but it became a far it was a far bigger question for people online they felt like

that I tossed him softball

questions and that I didn't press him. Yeah. And then I listened to your

podcast and one thing about Jack is very smart guy, very nice guy, but he talks in a very slow and methodical way.

And when you ask him a question, he takes these routes and if you don't want to jump in and press them like you're in this

weird situation where he's not totally answering your question but he's talking about

...