And the So, So, Welcome to On the Record. We are the two mics. I'm Mike Graham. Who are you?

I am Mike Porky Perry and this is of course a podcast series yes goes on and on and

yes we would only do a few podcasts that's right promote our show in New York

last year but it's proved so popular yes we passed 4 million listens, right?

Probably heading up towards 5 pretty soon.

And everybody loves it.

So, you know, a long way it continues.

That's right.

It did of course start off with us telling stories about our time in America and we can go back to one of those

today because can I tell you that this very week that this podcast is going out

yeah Robert Maxwell in 1991 was found floating fates up in the Mediterranean.

Yeah, well isn't that funny because I was one of the last people to actually speak to him

to interview him.

But before we get on to that, right?

It's like bones a picket of you.

You do know that we now have a sort of, what can they be described as a vast array of media outlets outlets we use.

And you were earlier this week on a very big media outlet, which was the television of course,

on Jeremy Vines show.

Well, exactly right.

Now you appeared on Jeremy

Vine's television show which is the new version of the Matthew Wright show that's

right stuff or whatever it was called. Jeremy Vine of course a big fan of yours

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