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In an interview videotaped by The New York Times, Jerry Sundersky not only repeats his denials of wrongdoing,

he tells the paper youngsters in his second mile program, quote,

might say I was a father figure. A father figure who stands accused of 40 counts of raping and molesting young boys.

Aaron is 18, but was just 11 when he first met Sandusky after he was invited to a summer camp for the coach's charity, the second mile.

Sandusky soon targeted him, showering the boy with special attention, pulling Aaron out of school during the day, sleepovers at his home on weekends.

It was there in his basement that Sandusky victimized Aaron.

But you weren't able to say this guy is a monster, he's sexually assaulting me.

I couldn't do it.

Why?

Embarrassment, fear of not being believed.

That fear kept Aaron silent for years.

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. It's Lisa Z from RCP here.

So today, Jim and I pick up where we left off last week, discussing the child sexual abuse crimes committed in and around Penn State University by serial pedophile, former assistant football coach Jerry Sundersky.

And also the aftermath of his conviction as it pertains to other officials at the school, including head football coach Joe Paternow.

Laura could join us in this discussion because as most of you know, she's off fighting the good fight in the UK.

But when Jim and I left off, we were debating the definition of the word predator and whether we should or should not use it to refer to child sexual abuse offenders.

Our talk, as usual, got very intense and very interesting from their own out.

So one side note about the sound, you know, as many of you noticed in episode 122 with Sarah Azari and 123 from last week, the sound has had some echoes to it.

And we've done our best to clean it up.

That's because those episodes as well as today were all recorded on the same day with that same darn glitchy mic that made a terrible echo that we didn't know about until it was too late.

So poor Paul, he's had to stay up all night, many, many hours, manually going virtually second by second to clean out the tracks and try to get rid of the echo as best he could and get a better sound quality.

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