If nobody turned that one steer the four times you're riding that night, you didn't get a turn in.

You just didn't get to row.

When the heck loans you $30,000 to go rodeo?

What are you talking about?

We get down, we're like, this sucks.

We're still going to do it.

I can't stand it. So I just go up to him, and I am like, is there something wrong with your brain?

So we're officially going.

Undefendable. Yeah, that is our, that really is our management.

The name of the podcast is a flatbed podcast.

And the reason, that happens.

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Man, it's a huge honor to call somebody like Al Bach a friend.

I'm so excited to have him in Arizona and have him around.

If you guys that don't know, Al went through a pretty significant stroke years ago,

and he talks a little bit about his years to fight his way back,

and just some of the impact he's had on the industry and things like that.

But one of the things I want to mention is that we're going through some transitions.

We're trying some new things, and so it means that we've gotten out of the studio. We've traveled a little bit. We've gone some places. We're just, we're just reworking

how to get in front of the people that we want to visit with. And with that,

come some challenges with the recording. So if you notice that there's a little bit of

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