1236: A Candid Talk with My 20-Year-Old Son | What Grown-Ups Get Wrong About Growing Up
Emotionally Uncomfortable
Hosted by Heather Chauvin | Insights inspired by Mel Robbins, Bréne Brown, Danielle Laporte, Elizab
4.6 • 576 Ratings
🗓️ 29 October 2025
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
In this deeply honest episode, Heather sits down with her 20-year-old son, Logan, for a no-filters conversation about growing up, letting go, and what it really takes to find yourself in a noisy, pressure-filled world.
From moving out on his own to navigating burnout, identity, and purpose, Logan shares what young adults are actually thinking and what parents often get wrong. Together, they unpack boundaries, burnout, psilocybin journeys, emotional awareness, and the messy, beautiful evolution from dependence to self-leadership.
This is not your typical mother-son chat. It's real, raw, and full of insight for any parent, coach, or human trying to raise (or be) a conscious adult.
You'll hear:
🩶 Why "sitting in your sh*t" might be the most important life skill
🩶 What Gen Z actually needs from their parents (spoiler: less control, more trust)
🩶 How emotional strength looks different for this generation
🩶 The tension between safety, freedom, and identity in young adulthood
🩶 A powerful story about healing, psilocybin, and facing the truth you can't outrun
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| 0:00.0 | So we're going to dive into an episode today where I actually interviewed my 20-year-old son. |
| 0:07.9 | It's a candid conversation about what grownups get wrong about growing up. |
| 0:14.1 | And my son, who if you've been a podcast listener for a while, you may have heard me talk about my oldest, |
| 0:23.0 | who is my, you know, there's always that one kid that you have that triggers the crap out of you, |
| 0:29.4 | but also like is such a reflection of who you are and they know how to trigger on every wound |
| 0:36.0 | and every insecurity because they're just, |
| 0:40.5 | you know, their kind of spiritual path is to help you grow. So if you want to go listen to a few |
| 0:46.4 | other episodes of Logan and I or me talking about Logan's journey, here are some episodes that you can go listen to. |
| 0:56.2 | So episode 1224, I talked about Logan moving away. |
| 1:01.6 | That was about three months ago, four months ago. |
| 1:04.3 | I talked about the title of that episode. |
| 1:06.3 | So 1224 is he moved across the country and I didn't break. |
| 1:11.7 | Episode 1118 was about watching your young adults thrive post high school on their terms. |
| 1:22.0 | So that was episode 1118. |
| 1:24.9 | And episode 1107, 110707 1107 was about failure to launch and when when should I kick my kids out |
| 1:36.2 | aka my young adults so those are about three episodes that I would go check out so again those episode |
| 1:44.0 | numbers are 1224 111818, and 1107. |
| 1:47.9 | So write those down so you can go get more context about this whole conversation that you were |
| 1:52.9 | about to listen to with Logan and I. Okay. So before we dive in, I wanted to give you |
| 1:58.7 | commentary from, you know, a parent's perspective around the conversation |
| 2:05.3 | that Logan and I have just had. Number one is the mere effect. And this is healing through parenting. |
| 2:13.0 | So reflecting on, you know, every life cycle in your child's life, how it just triggers the shit out of you, how it is going to crack you open if you are willing to be cracked, if you are open to receiving, if you're open to surrendering. |
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