This is Kyle Whirley and I'm joined by my co-host, Jen Wilkin in JT English.

What's up?

Hey, Kyle, what's up?

You guys doing good?

That was someone's better, JT.

You're doing so much better.

You really did.

You really did, and I, gosh, I, I, I, gosh, I want to laugh, so I'm thinking there are

times, listener, where we, we, we, we have to double check that we were not recording

our conversation before we recorded the podcast, because, and we just had one of those where

it's like, I had to, like, keep looking down to make sure that it was not rolling, because

I was straight up terrified of that audio existing, not because we're doing bad things

or something.

It's not bad.

It's just in-hounds, brother, sister, conversation, and, yeah, we had one of those and I'm

going to be, I just hope that I can make it through this episode without falling back

into that.

So, here we go.

We are talking about the symbols of salvation, Romans 4 and 9 through 25.

We are in a long journey through the Book of Romans, which will include this fall semester,

spring semester, which is for us season seven, the season you're in, and season eight of

knowing faith.

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