You know, most people think hurting and they think about what the border collie does,

that's hurting. But really, that's only one kind of hurting. And, you know, they absolutely are hurting.

Maybe not like a border collie does, but they can get a job done and move stock from A to B. And that's all hurting is.

Yeah. And that's all hurting is. Hey there, fellow training nerds.

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Hannah Branigan, teacher, trainer, podcaster, and author of the book, Awesome Obedience, and

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and dogs with Ayoka Boubar. And it's really pretty cool. It's even nerdier than you might think.

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