I think the Lord is cutting through all the noise right here when he's telling us exactly how you know when it's happened.

There's not a formula, but you know when it's happened.

And the way you know is that word you've already used.

Hello, Scott.

Hello, Casey.

How are you, sir?

I am well.

And here we are.

We're finishing off Sections 49 and 50.

We just came off the Shakers and now we're in Section 50.

It's a little bit, a little different context, isn't it, Casey?

Yeah, so the Shakers are sort of an external thing that the church is dealing with,

or this other religious group in the area. And the message delivered

to them is very direct. Here's what's right. Here's what's wrong. This is more of an internal thing,

where there's struggles happening among members of the church. And you'll notice in this section,

the Lord is less blunt that he was with the Shakers. What the Shakers just pretty much tells him what the deal is.

This one, he's going to sit down and reason together.

And it has to do with a thread that we've been following since Joseph Smith first arrived in Ohio,

which is these people are new converts, and they're very enthusiastic about the gospel,

but they don't quite know what's okay and what's not okay. For instance,

John Whitmer, when he arrives from the east to Ohio, he notes, the enemy of all righteousness

had got hold of some of those who profess to be his followers because they had not sufficient

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