Four, three, two, one. Mr. Baker, how are you? Mr. Rogan, I'm doing well.

Thanks very much. What's going on, man? What are you doing in town? I just doing well. Thanks very much. What's going on man? What are you doing in town?

I just was in town doing some work on a sizzle reel for a show, a new show.

Can you talk about that? Can you tell people what it is? Well there's actually two of them. One I can

talk about I can tease it a little bit. The marketing department I guess has to

approve everything that's said. It's started out, it's going to be on the

discovery network, I think a science channel, and it was starting to main filming in February

and we should be finished by the end of March. So, you know, stand-pipe, but it's started with a discussion about hidden budgets in the Defense Department.

Like Dark Arts stuff?

Yeah, the show's going to be called Black Files.

Oh, like UFO type shit. Well, there's going to be some of that some but but from a you know not from a you know, you know, did they lie land did they not it's it's we're really actually kind of tearing into

Some of the programs that were funded by, you know, hidden money in the Defense Department.

And how do they do that? Well, I mean, if you take like the CIA, for example example the agency's budget is hidden inside it's not hidden but it's placed inside the Defense Department and it's and it's a classified piece of information obviously because a lot of the Defense Department gets a certain budget the CIA a piece of that, but nobody's allowed to know how much or where it's spent.

Right. Because obviously, you know, the Russians, the Chinese, whomever would like to know, you know, how much money is sent over to the agency so that they can get a sense of

size, resources, capabilities, that sort of thing.

So that's where the show concept started you know what what is that money spent on and both in the old days and now so it's a it kind of spans you know historical operations and events and activities and special units and it comes up to the present time and says you know where is you know money being devoted now for new technology or new programs

New operations new intelligence gathering efforts, whatever it might be.

So it's, you know, I think it's got a lot of promise, you know, hopefully people tune in and

find it interesting.

Well, people are always curious about where the money goes.

Yeah, yeah.

And, you know, I am. you know I am like who oversees it who gets who gets to decide like what gets spent on what and how much money goes where and I do actually know I do that's it's my job it's a good question you know that's I think a lot of people would be

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