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Hello, Joe Rogan.

I'm doing well.

Thank you.

Good to see with your pile of your writing.

Look at you got there.

The Moral Arc, Heavens on Earth.

Look at you, Skeptic magazine.

That's the latest issue.

Why is there something rather than nothing? We like to tackle the little questions. That's a deep one. You've dealt with this on the show. Yeah, too much. It's that's one that just you know when you're in traffic and you know what is this? You have someone like Neil or Sean Carroll or

Lawrence Kraus talking about this it's like whoa I mean I'm not a physicist I'm a social

scientist so for me I come at it like what do you mean by this word nothing

because most of us have this idea what I mean oh no in physics it means this other thing like okay

Yeah, well I think our limited understanding of what they're talking about.

When I see those guys writing down on legal papers with all that

scritchety scratchy-scratchety, crazy-looking fake alien language

mathematics, like, thank God you guys are out there. Well I open

heavens on earth with imagine yourself dead and you know most people go well you know

I see myself in the casket my friends and family

are around hopefully they're mourning no you wouldn't see anything of

course you're dead I mean to imagine anything you have to be conscious and alive

so you can't even picture being dead, so you can't picture not existing and it would be the

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