It is time for our podcast introduction to a wonderful conversation.

I must comment.

We've never had this conversation.

You emailed me or texted me and said, I want to do a show about Jefferson's first 100 days as opposed

to Trump's first 100 days and find out you know talk about the parallels and my

goodness there are some. Well the parallels are that it's difficult for the American people to adjust when one group of

individuals goes out especially if they represent a certain politics and a very different group of individuals

comes in. So it's one thing if you're moving from say the Kennedy to the Johnson

administration but when you're moving from...

Or the Washington to the Adams.

Right, the Carter to Reagan is a more difficult adjustment.

And this is a big one.

The adjustment now between the outgoing Obama

administration and the incoming Trump administration. But you know I am struck

after listening to you talk and this conversation of this show,

I'm not so sure that Adams to Jefferson

wasn't more difficult than what we're going through now.

I think it was because Moore was at stake

and people were really legitimately concerned about what Jefferson represented and, you know,

so we had this very fragile new republic, not much had really taken root yet.

If Jefferson was too disruptive, he could destroy the republic. It might

be more adjustment than the country could take at so earliest stage. Today, you know, we're

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