Another episode of Wife of the Party with my friends Jocelyn and Kirsten.

Jocelyn's usually with Kristen. This time she's with Kirsten so don't get them confused.

We'll have Kristen back soon.

She is preparing to move and she's really busy.

So Jocelyn is a ghostwriter.

I've talked about that before, but only like, we only kind of scratched the surface and I wanted to really

talk to her about ghostwriting and I wanted to pair her with Kirsten who I knew secretly

had written a novel that's sitting in a drawer and Kirsten had asked me before about

Jocelyn's job and was a little curious so I wanted to put them together and have us all

have a conversation about ghost writing and I think our conversation

ended up being about much more than that about kind of career paths and

having confidence and having some emotional health to be able to take criticism from someone

and about achieving goals, about being a self-starter, about knowing your personality and your attributes and what works for that to have a job that you enjoy

And we talked about Kirsten's novel and we talked about Jocelyn's Process. So I hope you like it. So enjoy. I rode my bicycle past your window last night.

I roller skated to your door at daylight.

It almost seems like. to your door at daylight.

It almost seems like you're avoiding me.

I'm okay alone, but you got something I need.

Well, I got a brand new fairer all estates.

You got a brand new key.

I think that we should get together and try the march you see.

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