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This is a great conversation, very in-depth, and we are rolling full steam through part two here.

Here we go with Orion Taraban.

All right, I'd love to talk about why dating apps don't work for most people. I found this topic

fascinating. I've never really had to date online. I never used it really

even when it did exist. It was sort of, again, Match.com days. And it was like, no thanks. Back then,

that was for old people and I was like 27. And it was like, I can go out to a bar and meet five new

women tonight that may go out with me at some point. Yeah, I can fart around Match.com for five months

and maybe meet a couple of people that way. And they're all like five to seven years older than me.

That was not working for me at that time. Dating apps are interesting. I was an early adopter of

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