Boom. Hello, hello Ben. Hey there. Good to see you man. Yeah, it's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for doing this.

Yeah, yeah, thanks. Thanks for having me.

I've been looking at some of your shows in the last few days just to get a sense of how you're thinking about AI and crypto and the various other things I'm involved in.

It's been interesting.

Well, I've been following you as well.

I've been paying attention to a lot of your lectures and talks and different things you've done over the last couple days as well getting ready for this.

It's a AI is either people are really excited about it or they're really terrified of it.

Those are the sort of it seems to be the two responses.

Either people have this dismal view of these robots taking over the world

or they think it's going to be some amazing sort of symbiotic relationship

with that we have with these things that's going to evolve human beings past the

the monkey stage that we're at right now.

Yeah I tend to be on the latter more positive side of this dichotomy, but I think one thing that

has struck me in recent years is many people are now, you know, mentally

confronting all the issues regarding AI for the first time and I mean I've

been working on AI for three decades and I first started thinking about

AI when I was a little kid in the early in late 60s and early 70s when I saw

AIs and Robots on the original Star Trek.

So I guess I've had a lot of cycles to process the positives and negatives of it,

where it's now, like, suddenly most of the world is thinking through all this

for the first for the first time and you know when you first wrap your brain around the idea that

there may be creatures ten thousand or a million times smarter than human beings.

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