121: Wartime Diaries - Hai Ashkenazi
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🗓️ 19 November 2023
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
53-year-old Hai Ashkenazi from Tel Aviv is an archeologist, but never imagined he would find himself excavating a 21st-century Kibbutz. Yet in the insane reality that has become our life since October 7th, archeologists too are part of the war effort, and the term “destruction layer” has accrued a contemporary and chilling meaning.
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| 0:00.0 | In some of the houses, there were still people in it when they burned it. |
| 0:06.0 | And if there was someone there, the body also get cremated. |
| 0:14.0 | So only few remains are staying. |
| 0:17.0 | And this is why they brought us there, you know, because we know how to deal with this stuff. |
| 0:22.6 | Hey, listeners, it's Mishi. |
| 0:25.3 | So, as you know, during these incredibly difficult days, we're trying to bring you voices we're hearing among and around us. |
| 0:34.5 | These aren't stories, they're just quick conversations, or postcards really, that try to |
| 0:40.2 | capture slivers of life right now. Fifty-three-year-old Chaya Ashkenazi from Tel Aviv is an archaeologist, |
| 0:49.0 | but probably never imagined he'd find himself excavating a 21st century kibbutz. Yet in the insane reality |
| 0:57.4 | that has become our life since October 7th, archaeologists too are part of the war effort. |
| 1:05.0 | Our producers Alexandra Muller and Zev Levi sat down with Chai and heard how the term |
| 1:10.5 | destruction layer has accrued a |
| 1:12.7 | contemporary and chilling meaning. |
| 1:16.6 | Before we begin, a quick warning, while most of our wartime diaries contain references |
| 1:22.4 | that might not be suitable for all listeners, this one deals directly with death. So please take that into account. |
| 1:31.4 | Okay, here's Chai. So my name is Chai Ashkenazi. I have a PhD in archaeology. I dealt with |
| 1:39.9 | a bronze age, especially the early Bronze Age, like around 3,000 BCE. |
| 1:44.9 | Now, in the last almost two years, I work in the Israeli Antiquitous Authority. |
| 1:50.6 | I'm the Geoinformatics Manager, which deals with documentation of the data and the archaeology |
| 2:00.7 | sites and the finds we find in it. |
| 2:04.1 | So on October 7th, I woke up at 6.30 from the Siren. |
| 2:08.9 | In Tel Aviv, you have minutes and a half to get at a shelter. |
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