Good-day, Dominic Barfield here, and this is the obviously clinical podcast. Thank you for listening

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So joining Brian and myself in our virtual studio, we're going to talk to the wonderful Zoe Haferkri,

who was with the RVC for quite a number of years, but is now working at Davies

veterinary specialist. So thank you very much, Zoe, for coming to chat with us.

Hi, Domino, thanks for having me.

And I know we've spoken about different things before, sort of on the park, on the podcast,

but more recently you've been interested in

sustainability and sustainability in the vet group profession and so you so maybe I could start by

asking how you got interested in in that. It's a really good question. I've always been

interested and fascinated by the natural world,

and it was very much a focus of mine in my late teens before I became a vet student. And I think that

part of what attracted me to becoming a vet is that as a vet, you are

sort of positioned to understand animal, human health and the ecosystem more globally.

But I guess I became just very focused upon clinical veterinary medicine

and subsequently specialising in surgery, which is a career I've really loved. But I

probably, to be perfectly honest, having my children who are now four and six, again,

sort of really opened my eyes together with, you know, the increasing awareness of all of the

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