Sorry, man.

I've, I did the same thing.

I did the same thing with my mom today.

Not that I look any better, not that I do like video shows, you know, if you, I mean,

honestly, your background probably looks better than mine. I'm in like a new old, I'm like video shows, you know, if you, I mean, honestly, your background probably looks

better than mine. I'm in like a new old, I'm in a, I'm in a new old house for this office

has yet to be painted. It's like, I do have some asbestos in this house. That's how old it is.

Oh, good. Good. That's always good. You know, especially if we disturb it.

So anyways, you know, thank you so much for, I guess, spending some time with me.

And we can do this a couple ways. I'm going to hit record.

And if this is a good conversation, we'll turn it into a show.

And if not, and we need to do another show, we'll do it that way. Sounds good. Okay. So, welcome everyone back to dissecting popular IT nerds. We are, I will butcher your last name. I know I will butcher this last one. We're

speaking with Len. Wait, I should take it, I should take a shot at this. Um,

Svind. This is so this. Svind.

This is so hard.

Svetenko.

That's good.

That's good, Svetenko.

Okay, okay, okay.

You did not break the cardinal rule, which a lot of people do,

which is add letters in there that just don't exist.

Wow.

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