#121 - Curtis Yarvin PT.2 - From Caesar to Satoshi: Why Political & Economic Systems Fail
The Peter McCormack Show
Peter McCormack
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🗓️ 20 October 2025
⏱️ 111 minutes
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Summary
In Part 2 of our conversation, Curtis Yarvin covers political decay, Austrian economics and the origins of money and Bitcoin.
We explore: – Monarchy as the most honest system of rule – The flaw in free-market libertarianism – Mises vs Keynes vs Friedrich List – What the Austrians got right & wrong – Why personal net worth is the real inflation metric – The theoretical origin of money – Bitcoin vs gold question
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TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:05:38 – Farage, Reform & Populism's Trap 00:10:50 – Monarchy as a Political System 00:17:34 – Caesar vs Commodus 00:25:38 – Democracy's Many Failure Modes 00:30:11 – Corporate Governance as Political Metaphor 00:33:25 – Austrian Economics & Intellectual Capture 00:40:32 – System Software & Building Urbit 00:49:29 – Economics as Propaganda 00:54:12 – Why GDP Is a Lie 01:01:07 – Mises vs Keynes 01:05:00 – Mercantilism & Friedrich List 01:09:21 – Personal Net Worth = Inflation 01:14:18 – Bitcoin, Gold & Store of Value 01:24:05 – The Nash Equilibrium of Money 01:30:34 – Why Axes Can't Be Money 01:35:26 – Why Bitcoin Wins 01:38:16 – The Path to Remonetisation 01:46:43 – How Close He Got to Bitcoin 01:50:00 – Final Thoughts
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| 0:00.0 | Things are hosed. Wow, that is hard to believe. You're like, I thought we were on the road to |
| 0:05.3 | Utopia. I thought we were building socialism. You're telling me things are hosed. I'm hearing that |
| 0:10.4 | for the first time, right? Things are hosed is a hard pill to swallow. And then once you've taken that |
| 0:16.8 | pill, you need to swallow the next pill, which is still more brutal, which is things have been |
| 0:21.9 | hosed since the 17th century. And that is true of the monetary system, that is true of various |
| 0:28.7 | political and legal ideas. Just assume the worst case scenario about any field or any system of |
| 0:36.6 | ideas is things have been h host since the 17th century. |
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| 1:24.9 | I mean, it essentially goes back to this FDR. Yeah. Because you know what? Like, |
| 1:29.4 | after I was it in, it was in Tucker's interview who brought it up. So I went and read it. |
| 1:34.2 | Actually, I know I posted it on Facebook. And it was, it was warmly welcomed by my conservative |
| 1:38.7 | friends. But this was it. This is preeminently the time to speak the truth. |
| 1:44.5 | The whole truth, frankly and boldly, |
| 1:47.1 | nor need we shrink from honesty facing conditions in our country today. |
| 1:51.3 | Values have shrunk into fantastic level. |
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