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we had a great time even though it wasn't a great time and apparently we all

decided so did a whole bunch of other experts it didn didn't mean much at all. It wasn't consequential for the outcome of the election and it definitely was not satisfying to see Tim Wall's beat so friendly and frankly not go after JD Vance very hard. In my opinion, that is my opinion,

that's my interpretation and it was the general feeling of the over 60 people that were at the hangout last night. I am very grateful

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before and after in today's listener subscriber email.

Here's the way NPR had it.

Partisans on both sides will have arguments for why their guy did well at certain times

and not as well as others in the first and only presidential debate

Tuesday night between Republican J.D. Vance and Democrat Tim Wall's this debate will

likely not move the needle at all in this presidential campaign because first and foremost no one votes for

the vice presidential pick after all the most important rule of being a running made is

first do no harm short of a major mistake v. P's are unlikely to make a

fundamental difference in the race and there wasn't one of those Tuesday night.

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