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People I (Mostly) Admire

120. Werner Herzog Thinks His Films Are a Distraction

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The filmmaker doesn’t want to be known only for his movies. He tells Steve why he considers himself a writer first, how it feels to be recognized for his role in "The Mandalorian," and why he once worked as a rodeo clown.

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My guest today, Werner Herzog is a trailblazing filmmaker. He's also an actor,

0:10.0

and author and a poet. But more than anything, he's a character, he's a free thinker, and he's a lifelong

0:16.5

rulebreaker. So I said, two things I really will teach you, number one, lock picking, and number two foraging of documents.

0:30.0

Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Leavitt.

0:36.8

The people portrayed in Werner Herzog movies often walk a tight rope between genius

0:40.8

and madness.

0:41.8

Reading his recent memoir entitled

0:44.0

Every Man for Himself and God Against All,

0:47.0

one can't help but think that

0:49.0

Ferner Herzog himself isn't so different. So, Verda, you've had a truly remarkable life and you tell your story in a new memoir entitled Every Man for Himself and God against All.

1:06.6

And what you've done is all the more amazing because you were born into extremely difficult circumstances.

1:13.0

Born in Germany during World War II,

1:15.3

raised in a tiny remote village in Bavaria by a single mom,

1:19.4

I think it's almost impossible for people living in today's world to imagine what your childhood was like.

1:25.8

Could you paint a picture?

1:27.6

Well, actually I was born in Munich, but I was only two weeks old when there was carpet

1:33.4

bombardment on Munich and everything around destroyed

1:38.0

and my mother finds me in my cradle

1:41.0

with a thick layer of glass shards and debris and bricks upon me.

1:45.7

So she got frightened and grabbed my older brother and me and fled into the mountains.

1:50.6

So we were some sort of refugees or displaced people and of course not easy to

1:57.1

grow up because it was deep poverty nothing was there we had for example no running water. You had to go to the well with a bucket.

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