120: Every Lie Told Owes a Debt to the Truth
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🗓️ 1 April 2022
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Host Reed Galen is joined by Lincoln Project Senior Advisor Stuart Stevens to discuss the state of the national GOP and its continuing descent. Over the last month we’ve collectively seen the Republican Party weirdly flip-flop on Russia, make a fool of themselves during Ketanji Jackson Brown’s SCOTUS nomination hearings, override the veto of the Utah anti-trans sports ban, the list goes on. It begs the question…what is it that the GOP truly stands for…and what will the pro-democracy coalition’s message be to defeat them in the 2022 midterm elections.
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| 0:40.8 | Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Gailan. Today, I'm joined by Stuart |
| 0:46.6 | Steeves, senior advisor to the Lincoln Project, and author of It Was All Alive, now available in |
| 0:51.9 | paper. Stuart, welcome back. Great to be here, Reed. Thanks for asking me to the party. |
| 0:57.0 | So Stuart, I want to go back to something you and I have discussed more times than I can count |
| 1:02.1 | probably in the last two years. And that is the state of the Republican Party, the national |
| 1:07.8 | Republican Party. It's continued and accelerating descent into, I don't even know what the word is. |
| 1:14.4 | I'm sure the Germans have a word for it. You know, what they stand for, what they don't stand for, |
| 1:18.7 | if they stand for anything, we're going to talk about vis-a-vis how we see them in the threat to |
| 1:24.3 | democracy, especially as the 2022 midterms draw near. So let's get going on it. So in the last |
| 1:31.2 | month, Stuart, we've had the GOPB pro-Putin and sort of anti-Putin. They've been pro-Trump and now |
| 1:41.2 | they're nervously pro-Trump. For decades, it was the anti-tax party and now Rick Scott, |
| 1:47.0 | head of the Republican Senatorial Committee, says that they are the pro-Tex party, at least for |
| 1:52.3 | quote, everybody having skin in the game. We have seen them in the last week in these confirmation |
| 1:59.1 | hearings for Judge Jackson illustrate in real time everything and you wrote in your book. I mean, |
| 2:05.6 | have we achieved the nadir? Is there room to fall? Like, give us your sense of where they are today. |
| 2:10.5 | I think that a lot of the stuff that we said when we were both drawn to the party is true. |
| 2:17.5 | Character is destiny and the problem with the Republican party is now it has no character. |
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