Run, run, run with a railroad.

Get out of their sight.

When the engine turns, then you gotta move on and you gotta move on at night. From DMT Media and Audio Boom,

from the D. M. T. T. M. T. M. M.

From DMT Media and Audio Boom, this is the Dead Man Talking podcast with me Alex Haniford.

I ended the last episode by mentioning there had been some pretty exciting developments with my investigation after some legal experts

got involved in the cases of Diemantina Colahacko and Andres Miscorro.

You're going to hear all about that in next week's podcast, which is actually the

penultimate episode of my investigation. I do hope you'll listen to that one as we

gear up to the finale. As I said, there's some pretty big things to tell you about.

But today we've got a special extra program for you.

In the past, we've heard from people who knew Arneel-Riseendez like his attorney Les Ribnick or psychologist Bruce

Cohen. Well today we're speaking to someone who not only spent lots of time

with him while he was

a spokesman for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice

from 2001 to 2012.

It was Michelle who organized my interview with Rizendis back in 2003.

As you'll hear, it was part of her job to witness executions in Texas and she watched 280 inmates die by lethal injection.

Last year she released the book, Death Row the Final Minutes,

My Life as an execution witness in America's most infamous prison.

For over a decade it was her job to watch people die.

It's 2001 Michelle Lyons has watched men and women die here in the death chamber at the

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