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I've dream that that you were twisting

through seven suns of gold

and the gypsy was insisting

their story must be told

I came two in the morning

but I took it as a warning, that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hi, everybody.

My name is Veronica Valley.

And I'm Chip Summers.

And welcome to the Soberfall podcast.

We are both in long-term recovery and I've worked with thousands of people as therapists and coaches.

We started this podcast so we could talk about all matters to do with recovery, sobriety, being alcohol-free and that kind of stuff.

So I can't believe we've got to 12 episodes.

Right.

I know. We've had some great feedback. So I was thinking about what we could talk about today. And I kind of look a lot in the

So Before Facebook group about what people are talking about and asking questions about. And one of

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