All right, everybody, welcome back to another edition of the 12 Questions podcast.

My name is Jeff Luck.

I'm a writer for The Athletic. And each week, I ask the same

12 questions to a different race car driver. Up next is Ben Rhodes from the Craftsman Truck Series,

drives for Thor Sport Racing, and of course won the championship a couple years ago. But,

you know, I know Ben Rhodes is not as big of a name as some of the other ones out

there, some of those Cup series superstars. But yet I appreciate you giving this a chance

because I feel like it's encouraging when we can show some of the personalities in the garage

who don't get talked to as much. You know, I get there's a balance. People want to hear from the big names as well,

but I think it's fun to talk to somebody like a Ben Rhodes who is,

let's face it,

a fantastic interview,

really fun to talk to.

So I hope you'll enjoy our interview.

This is actually,

there's a lot more in this interview,

the audio version here than even made it into the written version because it was long. I mean,

it was one of the longer 12 questions really ever, I think. So I hope you can settle in and

enjoy what Ben Rhodes has to say. All right, everybody, I'm here for another 12 questions with

Ben Rhodes. We just had a spirited cocoa melon conversation and now we'll get into the real stuff life has changed

for you since we last talked so yes yeah i've got a six month old at home now so a lot less sleep a lot more

cocoa melon and not that i was listening to cocoa melon before uh but a lot of cocoa melon a lot of

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