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What extra stuff do you have to do? Because I think I've seen another clip of you where they'd

measured like the impact of like crashing under one of these waves. That's what I thought you meant.

Channel 4, yeah. Like do you do you spend a lot of time doing like extra curricular stuff just to

let you fucking? Whenever I was, whenever, so if you go back to like the 80s and 90s,

surfing we always would have looked to Hawaii and California as a center for inspiration. So

we always saw people surfing. So we would have just surfed to get better at surfing. So it would have

been extremely unusual to do any sort of cross-training that you know most sports athletes would

do nowadays. But I started like, I just had this thing. I just felt that I needed to learn

other things to strengthen my body. So I did a lot of weight training and various things

that I'm swimming and actually I got it wrong in a way. I felt like because I wanted to be

you know a big way of surfing or just a surfer that I should swim a lot of course. But swimming

a lot doesn't actually help in the surf zone. It's more about you learn the currents and you

learn the movement of the water and that's what really helps you. So the actual swimming bit of it.

I was swimming like a kilometer every night and it didn't. It's probably great from a fitness but

it wasn't great for the actual training aspect. So actually my friend was a former natural

bodybuilding world champion. He lives in the corner of Richard Robinson and so natural bodybuilding

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