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My guest today have made a profound impact on Britain's psychological and

sexual landscape and they have been invaluable to me to over the years as I have lost my way.

Frankly, I've found it again.

I'm delighted to say that today's hour or so I'm spending with Joan and

Jerrica. Before we begin the conversation, let me just announce a

special exclusive that Joan and Jericho have announced their first

forry into the world of books. You can preorder your copy of Why He Turns Away,

Do's and Don't From Joan and Jerrica now in advance of its publication on the 29th of October.

And from then on, signed copies will be available for Water Stats. Joan, Jericho, it is, it's a delight to have you in lockdown. Can I start by asking where you guys are? Have you locked down together?

No, Susan, I'm in, I live by the Regents Canal, as some of the listeners would already know.

I live very near the Madele Hill tunnel,

where I'm able to have easy access for my early morning swim, up and down the canal,

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