12/30/21 Ray McGovern on the Dumb but Dangerous Tension With Russia Over Ukraine

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Scott Horton

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🗓️ 4 January 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Scott interviews Ray McGovern in this extended version of Antiwar Radio. They discuss the recent tensions between the U.S. and Russia over Ukraine. Both Scott and McGovern agree that there is no impending Russian invasion, despite how hard the American media are trying to push that narrative. McGovern gives a thorough explanation of post-Cold War U.S. Russia relations to provide important context often omitted. Discussed on the show: “What! No Russian Invasion of Ukraine?” (Antiwar.com) Shock and Awe (IMDb) Ray McGovern is the co-creator of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and the former chief of the CIA’s Soviet analysts division. Read all of his work at his website: raymcgovern.com. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	For Pacifica Radio, January 2nd, 2022.
0:05.0	I'm Scott Horton.
0:07.0	This is anti-war radio.
0:25.0	I'm your host Scott Horton. I'm the editorial director of anti-war.com
0:30.0	and narrator of the new audio book, Enough Already.
0:34.0	Time to End The War on Terrorism.
0:36.0	You can find my full interview archive,
0:38.0	more than 5,600 of them now, going back to 2003,
0:42.0	at Scott Horton.org and at YouTube.com
0:45.4	slash Scott Horton show and I'm very happy that my first guest of the year
0:50.8	this year on KPFK is my good friend and yours and our great advisor
0:56.7	former CIA officer turned anti-war activist and also regular contributor to anti-war.com, the great Ray McGovern.
1:05.0	Welcome back to the show, Ray, how are you, sir?
1:07.0	Thanks, Scott. I'm well, thanks.
1:10.0	Very happy to hear that and happy to have you on the show with us here and I love your well
1:16.3	Always your focus on Russia issues, but also love this latest article. What? No Russian invasion of Ukraine? And I can tell how
1:25.8	sarcastically not surprised you truly are in that headline. Go ahead and tell
1:30.5	us what's behind all the hype. The Washington Post kicked this off on
1:35.2	November the 1st I believe it was. Russia building up preparing to invade Ukraine
1:39.8	and evidently you never bought it and now you're
1:43.0	confirmed and you're not buying it. So what's really going on here?
1:47.2	Well it was a non-starter for me Scott, you know, you don't have to have been
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