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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1195: Javier Leiva | Modern Romance Scam Tactics and Ways to Fight Back

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Jordan Harbinger

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4.8 β€’ 12.1K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Beyond catfishing, romance scammers are moving in with victims and rewriting wills. Here, Pretend Podcast host Javier Leiva exposes their new playbook.

Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1195

What We Discuss with Javier Leiva:

  • Romance scams are so common that identical fake stories (architect in Indonesia, talking to Johnny Depp) are used with thousands of victims simultaneously, making them seem like urban legends.
  • Scammers target vulnerable people by checking boxes: isolated from family, cognitive decline, terminal illness, government pension, loneliness. More boxes = bigger mark.
  • Advanced scammers move in with victims, become caregivers, get named as estate executors, then move on to victim's elderly relatives when the person dies.
  • Damage goes beyond money β€” victims often become unable to trust again and avoid relationships entirely, while family stress affects everyone for years.
  • Watch for red flags: excessive early generosity, isolating behavior, urgent requests bypassing reasoning, password/financial access requests, sob stories. Trust family concerns.
  • And much more...

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Coming up next on the Jordan Harbinger Show.

1:02.8

These guys are exploiting what makes us human,

1:06.0

which is the fact that we are trusting.

1:08.3

Trust by default.

1:09.8

It's a fault theory, right? Where we don't have

1:12.2

enough time in the day to question everything around us, because if we do, well, hey, first

1:16.9

all, we live a very pessimistic life, right? We trust people. We have to trust.

1:25.9

Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories,

1:30.4

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1:34.3

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1:38.1

become a better informed, more critical thinker through long-form conversations with the variety

1:42.2

of amazing folks, from spies to CEOs, athletes, authors, thinkers, and performers, even the occasional rocket scientist, drug trafficker, arms dealer, former cult member, and hostage negotiator. And hey, if you're new to the show, or you're looking for a handy way to tell your friends about the show, and I always appreciate it when you do that, I suggest our episode starter packs. These are collections of our favorite episodes on topics like persuasion and negotiation, psychology, and geopolitics, disinformation, China, North Korea, crime and cults, and more. That'll help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on the show. Just visit jordanharbinger.com slash start or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. Coming up here on the Jordan Harbinger show, you've heard the tales of Nigerian princes

2:18.7

and Tinder swindlers, but today's con artists are moving in, they're marrying their marks,

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