One evening I looked at the Hamar, it was like 9 p.m.

And one of the huge, like, rooms was feel of like Haredi people and secura.

And like you saw like women, like, you know, were barely dressed, was really hot, and they were like, with like, tink-tong and like short pants.

And near them

karedi men and they all literally work together and no one cares what other

person wear no one cares if they have a yamaika on their head or a tattoo on

their arms it was just you know people wanted to do good together and I looked at

it and I said we could be said, we could be that place.

We could be that place.

We don't need to agree.

We don't need to marry each other.

But we can, you know, coexist.

Why we believe those who said that we should hate each other.

Hey, listeners, it's Mishi.

So, as you know, during these incredibly difficult days, we're trying to bring you voices we're

hearing among and around us. These aren't stories, they're just quick conversations, or postcards,

really, that try to capture slivers of life right now. Chaya Gilboa has been a dear friend of mine for many years. She's an incredible

Talmud teacher, a tireless activist, a flaming redhead, and was, for the last three years,

the CEO of the Jerusalem Philanthropic Initiatives, which works with local civil society. On October 11th,

Chaya turned 40. But instead of any kind of celebration, she was, no surprise here, leading a team

at the Jerusalem Chalmal, the epicenter of the city's volunteer efforts. Here she is.

Hi, Chaya. Shalom, Ishii.

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