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Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

119 – Red Night of the Soul (feat. Elisabeth Allie)

Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

Jay Edidin & Miles Stokes

Books, Visual Arts, Arts

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2016

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Art by David Wynne. Prints and cards available at the shop, or contact David to purchase the original.
Art by David Wynne. Prints and cards available at the shop, or contact David to purchase the original.

In which Elisabeth hacks the Matrix; Magneto is the worst at small talk; Hela overreaches; parents just don’t understand human speech; everything is better with super-rings; Selene has a Xena moment; almost anything can be solved with a kiss; and even if you transform Doug Ramsey into a giant red murder monster, he’ll still be a huge nerd.

X-PLAINED:

  • The S-Men
  • New Mutants Forever #1-5
  • Magma’s revised family tree
  • Updating the New Mutants
  • The delicate balance of the Forever line
  • The web
  • Idiom confusion
  • A flawed cultural analogy
  • Tiberius the Generic
  • Several profoundly dubious costumes
  • Family resemblance
  • Skull v. Skull
  • The dearth of canonically asexual X-characters

NEXT EPISODE: Different Nazis

Miles here – in one of the questions for this episode, I conflated asexuality and aromanticness. Those are totally two different things. Apologies – I’m still learning!


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, Elizabeth.

0:02.8

Aside from New Mutants Forever, I was trying to remember if the X teams had fought the Red Skull before.

0:07.0

Sure, someone wrote a novel where the X-Men fought a bunch of villains who were trying to rewrite reality with a cosmic cube.

0:12.8

Red Skull was in that.

0:14.1

And I guess Wolverine fought the skull in the 90s cartoon and the original Old Men Logan series.

0:19.0

But those aren't main continuity either.

0:20.7

What about Earth 616?

0:22.2

Miles, have you ever heard of the

0:23.7

S-Men? That's a silly name. What's their deal? They were Red Skulls team of

0:28.8

supervillans a few years back. Avalanche's daughter, Dancing Water, a guy named Honest John, the Living Propaganda.

0:35.4

Okay, THAT is an awesome name.

0:37.6

They worked with a skull around the time he got telepathy by stealing Professor Xavier's

0:41.2

corpse and grafting part of Xavier's brain to his own.

0:44.0

Am I seriously not supposed to yell what to that?

0:46.8

It wasn't the first time Red Skull has experimented with moving brain stuff around though.

0:50.5

Before that, he'd tried to move his consciousness into Captain America's body while

0:54.0

Cap was lost in time and space.

0:55.7

Cool, cool. Villains possessing heroes is a time-honored comic book trope.

0:58.9

That wasn't Plan A though.

1:00.5

The body he really wanted to take over? Oh, okay.

1:03.0

What body could he possibly want to control more than that of Steve Rogers?

1:05.0

The dude's like a freaking superhuman Adonis.

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