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This is a global original podcast.

Paul McKenna's positivity podcast.

My guest today is one of the original supermodels.

She's a style icon of the swinging 60s and David Bailey's muse.

Her autobiographical novel, Peace of My Heart, looks with brutal honesty at the dizzying

impact of sudden fame and shares the inside scoop on 60s fashion and high society.

When John Lennon was asked to encapsulate her in three words, he replied, hot, hot, hot, smart, smart.

I'm talking today with Penelope Tree.

When it comes to romantic love, that's where listening to my gut has gone spectacularly wrong.

Because I think, you know, people say I listen to my gut, I listen to my instincts,

but often your instincts can be colored by your ego and your conditioning.

Dancing makes me happy except my children have done

their best to inhibit my dancing as most children are totally embarrassed by their parents dancing.

So I try to do this pretty much either on my own or without them around.

I've always wanted to write a novel and always made lots of excuses as to why that was not possible.

And suddenly, at the age of 62, I broke up with my long-term partner and was living in the country for the first time. And then I just sat there in this room

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