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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1181: Jefferson Fisher | Turning Confrontation Into Connection

The Jordan Harbinger Show

Jordan Harbinger

Social Sciences, Self-improvement, Entrepreneurship, Talk Radio, Business, Science, Education

4.8 β€’ 12.1K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Arguments escalate into relationship disasters daily. Trial attorney Jefferson Fisher shares courtroom tactics he uses to turn conflict into connection!

Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1181

What We Discuss with Jefferson Fisher:

  • Use time to regulate emotions in conflict. Take a breath before responding and slow down your speech. This prevents escalation and keeps you in control rather than entering "ignition mode" where you say things you regret.
  • Every person has surface and depth, and hostile behavior often masks deeper struggles. Asking "What's your biggest struggle?" can transform confrontational situations into connection.
  • Approach conversations with "something to learn" not "something to prove." When you try to win arguments, you lose relationships. Focus on understanding rather than being right to achieve better outcomes.
  • Handle interruptions strategically. Let them interrupt once, resume where you left off without acknowledging their interruption, then address it directly if they interrupt again: "I can't hear you when you interrupt me."
  • Show you're listening with one simple question. Before sharing your own story or response, ask one follow-up question about what they just shared. This makes people feel heard and valued in conversation.
  • And much more...

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1:00.8

say, I already told you, I'm not going to do that. I'm centered, I'm grounded, I'm balanced.

1:09.6

And all they did was just slow down their words.

1:12.4

So using time and space is a great way to be able to regulate yourself in real time and conversations.

1:24.6

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1:26.9

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1:29.0

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1:33.2

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1:37.3

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1:41.2

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