DeckNet sort of things battles in the mid to late 80s and, you know, sort of knowing the

smart money was on TCP because of the fact that it was open source

and it could be going anywhere, any vendor could implement it.

But we could talk a little bit about that.

Let's give me some history on that just real quick.

Because we've got people that are alive now

that were born after the dawn of the internet

and things that many people take for granted.

So, you know, what was...

What was really interesting, you know,

if you go back into the mid-80s,

is you had this nascent work with TCP IP starting to build out in academia.

And so at National Science Foundation in 85, 86, up until like the early 80s, you probably

had less than 50 to 100 places connected

to the internet.

You know, some really big computer science schools that were there.

You know, you go back to the mid to late 70s, it's four or five schools.

By the early 80s, it might be 40 or 50.

What were the first five? What were the first fives, it might be 40 or 50. What were the first five?

What were the first five schools that you can think of? It's like UC Santa Barbara, University of Utah,

UCLA. I forget who the fourth one is, but it was sort of in that group right there. And then you had what you had BBN, which was out of Massachusetts. And it was really just sort of in that group right there. And then you had BBN, which was out of Massachusetts.

And it was really just sort of testing out the idea with IP that, again, you know, one of the

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