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Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. As always, I'm here with my producer Jason DeFilippo.

At first, when I heard of the Russia-based group, Pussy Riot, I immediately thought that it was the worst name ever.

Either something got seriously lost in the translation, or they're just going for shock value, devoid of any substance. Well, I could not have been more incorrect.

Shortly after I heard about Pussy Riot, they gained even more international attention when they were sent to a Russian prison for two years for one of their protest actions after intensely criticizing Vladimir Putin's regime in their homeland.

When I heard Nadia Tola-Kona-Kova was giving a talk in San Francisco, I pulled all the strings I could to get a rare interview beforehand.

In this episode, we dig into the roots of Nadia's distrust of authority. Why her protest art is important not only to her, but to the future of Russia.

And we hear some pretty harrowing stuff about life in prison and lessons gained in one of the worst labor camps in Siberia.

This is truly a rare opportunity to speak with an internationally known performance artist and musician, and I really hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.

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That link is in the show notes at jordanharbinger.com slash podcast. All right. Here's Nadia Tola-Kona-Kova.

First of all, being 38 years old, I think I'm a decade or so older than you.

28 now. Yeah. So what conditions were you in growing up that inspired you to be to grow into this sort of activism role?

Because I think when I was 28, I was like, let me go to the bar, chase some women, go home, watch a movie.

28. Yeah. Late bloomer maybe. Oh, I don't know. I think American's in Russian there are really different in this instance.

Because Russians there just have to grow up faster. First of all, legally you can start drinking just at 21 and we can drink at 18 and effectively we start to drink at 12.

Second, I finished my school when I was 16 years old and when I was 16, I left my home, I left my parents' home and I moved just by myself to Moscow.

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