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#118 Are Bishops Biblical? - Joe Heschmeyer

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9659 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Joe Heschmeyer examines the biblical evidence for bishops and the clerical hierarchy.

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Welcome back to Seamus Popery. I'm Joe Heschmire. One of the reasons that there are so many denominations in

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Christianity is because of disagreements about the biblical teaching on the structure of the church. This is sometimes called

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church polity. So the question, there's a lot of different possible answers to it. But broadly speaking,

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we could say the question like this. In the local church, do you have a three-tiered structure of governance where you have

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bishops and then you have elders and then you have deacons?

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Or do you just have a two-tiered structure of governance in which elders and bishops are the same thing?

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Now you'll find variations on that. I don't mean to

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suggest this is an exhaustive overview of all of the different ways you could read the biblical evidence.

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I do mean to suggest that these are two of the biggest camps. And if we can get this right,

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it'll be really helpful. So is a bishop in the Bible something different than an elder? Now, terminologically, I know

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some people watching this are saying, we don't call our middle tier elders, we call them presbyters,

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where we call them priests. All of that is coming from the same. So the Greek word for elder

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presbis is where we get the word presbyter

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that becomes prester in slangy, vulgar Latin, and from prester it becomes priest. There's

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bigger theological issues that we could talk about there, whether we think of this as a priestly

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authority or not, but I'm going to actually leave that pretty consciously aside, just to focus

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the question on, do we have above that middle tier, whatever you call it, priest, presbyter,

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elder, is there an office above that of bishop, or are elders and bishops the same thing?

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So should the church be run, again, at the local-ish level, so one church per city,

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you'll have a lot of evidence of that in the early church. So at the city level, should there

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be one bishop running that, as you'll see among Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans, or

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should there be a co-ruling presbytery?

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