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🗓️ 4 June 2023
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Pulitzer Prize winner Molly O'Toole and former ICE Investigator Jerry Robinette on our Southern Border.
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0:00.0 | Hey everybody, we got a depressing one, you know, for a change. I think we've had a few |
0:12.2 | depressing ones before, but not because the subject was depressing. No, no, no, no. |
0:17.9 | They were depressing because my execution of a topic was just so pitiful. |
0:24.4 | I mean, a couple of years ago, I somehow made an interview with the winner of the National Spelling Bee seemed depressing, and the kid was great, came from a family that didn't even pressure him. |
0:39.2 | Oh, well. |
0:41.2 | The one today, though, is a great depressing one because it's on immigration with two |
0:48.3 | terrific guests, Molly O'Toole, Polls, a prize winning journalist who's on leave from the LA Times to write a book on |
0:56.9 | immigration. And Jerry Robinette, who was in charge of investigation for ICE, U.S. immigration, |
1:05.8 | and customs enforcement, and homeland security in their San Antonio office. |
1:11.8 | He was in charge of guys like Hank, the brother-in-law in Breaking Bad, I think. |
1:16.9 | I think that was his job. |
1:18.6 | Anyway, two different perspectives, but both agree that the system is broken and indeed it is. |
1:26.1 | The backlog on asylum cases, over 2 million pending cases and growing. |
1:32.4 | That's a 5 to 20 year waiting period. |
1:35.8 | And the whole system is just underfunded for political reasons. |
1:40.7 | Jerry says we overspend on the border. |
1:43.7 | You know, most immigrants who come in are looking |
1:47.2 | for border guards. They just cross the border. They look for border guards to turn themselves in and |
1:54.6 | claim asylum. And while this past week, President Biden did negotiate a pretty good deal to prevent |
2:00.5 | us from going over the |
2:01.7 | cliff. We certainly aren't devoting anywhere near the funding we need on immigration. Because, as |
2:09.0 | Catherine Rampel of the Washington Post recently pointed out, the U.S. has too few immigrants, |
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