117. Ellen Greenberg: Review of the MEO Report – Part 1
The Consult: Real FBI Profilers
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🗓️ 31 December 2025
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Summary
In this episode, we examine the independent review of Philadelphia MEO case 11-0420, involving the death of Ellen Greenberg. We share our initial thoughts on the report and its conclusions. This review was commissioned as part of a settlement between Ellen’s parents and the City of Philadelphia. For years, Ellen’s parents have been advocating to have the official manner of death changed from Suicide to either Undetermined or Homicide. Part 1 of 2.
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| 0:00.0 | In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder. |
| 0:08.9 | Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children. |
| 0:12.9 | Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler, and I'm joined by my colleagues. |
| 0:38.0 | Angela Serser. |
| 0:39.5 | Susan Costler Drew. |
| 0:41.0 | And Bob Drew. |
| 0:42.8 | Angela, Susan, and Bob are also retired FBI profilers, and we work together in the FBI's |
| 0:48.4 | behavioral analysis unit. |
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| 1:13.1 | So back in February, we did a four-part series on the equivocal death of 27-year-old elementary |
| 1:19.9 | school teacher Ellen Greenberg. |
| 1:22.6 | And she was found dead in the apartment that she shared with her fiance Sam Goldberg and this was in Philadelphia, |
| 1:30.9 | Pennsylvania on January 26th of 2011. There was a snowstorm that day and Ellen and Sam were home |
| 1:40.0 | for the afternoon when Sam went to the complex's gym and Ellen stayed back to enter grades, |
| 1:47.9 | which were due the following day. When Sam returned from the gym, he found Ellen dead. |
| 1:56.1 | We're talking about this case again today because the Philadelphia Medical Examiner's Office released a new report, |
| 2:03.3 | re-examining the case. This review was part of a settlement agreement between the city and Ellen's |
| 2:10.4 | parents who have fought for many years to have her manner of death changed from suicide to either undetermined or homicide. |
| 2:20.3 | Ellen's death has always been controversial. She was found in her apartment with 20 stab wounds, |
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