#117 - C. L. Max Nikias
The Eric Metaxas Show
Metaxas Media
4.7 • 3.7K Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2026
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Today On The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric talks with former USC President C. L. Max Nikias about his new book American Trojan, his journey from a refugee childhood in Cyprus to the presidency of the University of Southern California, and what his story reveals about the American Dream. They also discuss the collapse of academic standards, the rise of identity politics in higher education, the loss of the Western classics, the future of universities in the age of AI, and what it would take to renew American education. Subscribe for clips from The Eric Metaxas Show to hear politics and culture from a Christian perspective.⭐ PRE-ORDER TODAY:Revolution: The Birth of the Greatest Nation in the History of the World📕: https://a.co/d/0ir3NlapTODAY'S SPONSORS:⭐ FREE SLAVES with CSI: https://csi-usa.org/metaxas/📢 Don’t Let the Financial Storm Destroy Your Wealth and Future!https://www.metaxasgoldira.com/⚖️ Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: https://www.legalhelpcenter.com/🛏️ MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://www.mypillow.com/☀️ Honest, fast, and free Medicare plan guidance: https://askchapter.com/metaxas/💧 Sentry H2O: https://sentryh2o.com/
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| 0:00.0 | When was the last time you stopped and listened to your body? |
| 0:03.0 | Here's a Holland and Barrett ad break to do just that. |
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| 0:08.0 | Tune in to your body's energy levels. |
| 0:10.0 | Is your brain struggling to focus? |
| 0:13.0 | Are you about to let out a midday yawn? |
| 0:15.0 | Or is your body crying out saying, |
| 0:18.0 | You've got to show me love. |
| 0:24.5 | We know what your body's asking for. |
| 0:27.2 | In store online on the app. |
| 0:29.7 | Back Your Body, Holland and Barrett. |
| 0:30.4 | Hey there, folks. |
| 0:31.4 | Welcome to the program. |
| 0:36.8 | The other day, when I had Victor Davis Hansen on the program, |
| 0:49.1 | afterward, he suggested to me that I look into the figure of a certain Max Nicias, a Greek American who'd written a book called American Trojan. |
| 0:56.2 | And I am very excited to have him right now as my guest. |
| 0:57.5 | Max, welcome. |
| 0:59.1 | Thank you. |
| 1:01.3 | Thank you, Eric, for having me on your program. I said off on the air, it's on the clock again. |
| 1:14.3 | I said, off the air, I said, you know, Yasas, Yasu, you are a Greek. |
| 1:21.8 | I can tell, of course, from your accent, you're authentic. |
| 1:25.1 | But you have an extraordinary story. |
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