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This episode of Bad People contains details which some people might find disturbing.

It mentions physical and emotional beauty against children.

This story, it's one that I've been wanting us to talk about here on bad people ever since I've first heard about it.

It's a truly heartbreaking case for everybody involved

because what happens when a parent starts good they're almost picture perfect in fact But then they do something so dark and so horrible.

It's 1052 AM, Wednesday, August 30th, 2023.

We are in Ivans, a wealthy desert community in Utah.

An elderly resident, Danny Clarkson, has just made a call to the police.

I just had a 12-year-old boy still up here at my front door asking for help.

The boy looks as if he has just escaped from a terrible ordeal.

He's emaciated, he's got tape around his legs. He is covered in wounds. We need the cops as soon as possible. The boy won't explain what has happened to him.

I think he's been detained. But detained by whom? Well the answer to that question is one which

will shock America. I'm Dr Julia Shaw criminal psychologist and I'm Amber Hack journalist and true crime mates we've all grown up together we're all

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